• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Yes. LineageOS and GrapheneOS among other forks are some obvious counterexamples to the narrative that Android isn’t open source. Then there are the countless vendors that use it in China without Google software. I know it’s cool to hate on Google and I do partake but that’s simply a fact.

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      1 year ago

      Those are missing major parts of a full Android system. Play Services is a huge one.

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          1 year ago

          Or your own proprietary implementation if you’re making an Android device yourself and you were lazy.

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          Go buy any Android phone from a major brand (Google, Samsung, etc) try to rebuild the OS as it’s installed from the factory from source. You can’t.

          Even theAOSP based Android distros like LineageOS ship with closed source binary blobs for crucial parts of the OS.

          Calling Android OSS is a marketing gimmick to trick nerds into choosing Android.

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            I don’t know how to rebuild shit but certainly plenty of people can and have.

            There are dozens of forks of Android so I don’t know how you can NOT call it OSS.

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              You can build a version of Android, but not the version that is installed on the device you buy in the store.

              There are dozens of forks of Android so I don’t know how you can NOT call it OSS.

              Because even those forks ship closed source binary blobs. You simply cannot build an Android phone with 100% open source. The phones you can actually buy in the store? A huge part of those is closed source.