cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7643915
As always in capitalism, video games have largely deformed from an art form into just another means to generate profit for large corporations
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7643915
As always in capitalism, video games have largely deformed from an art form into just another means to generate profit for large corporations
Bollocks, any decent game needs a fuck ton of capital to develop
Please share all the greatest communist games
Agree that loot boxes suck, they are gambling, not gaming
Edit. Yes, Tetris. One game made in 1985. Brilliant example Tankards.
So the score so far for games made:
Communism - 1
Capitalism - 831,000
No, games require labor to develop.
The capital pays for the labour, unless you have people who can work for free.
Within the confines of capitalism I would probably agree. But under socialism, production happens independently of capital accumulation.
Yeah right. Capital accumulation just comes via bribes instead. Corruption was rife in communist countries
FTFY
But moreso where there’s no opportunity to make money
That’s a pretty drastic statement to make without evidence
https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022
Clearly demonstrates that market socialist and hardcore capitalist countries like Denmark, Switzerland and Singapore are the least corrupt.
Lol, there’s plenty of opportunity to make money under socialism. You just have to do the labor. Under capitalism, however, there exists opportunity to derive money from other people’s surplus labor value, for example, I can pay a worker $4 to make a thing that requires $1 in supplies and sell that for $10. That difference of $5 is stolen surplus value from the laborer. Socialists seek to abolish this parasitic relationship.
Even if we suppose that’s true, you’re still failing to illustrate how capital is necessary for production under socialism.
Maybe we should start with what you mean by capital
Given the context of the meme being a picture of Karl Marx, I was using the Marxist definition of capital. Marxists.org provides a pretty digestible definition: https://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/c/a.htm
Ok good. So capital is required for capex and opex.
As you start with 0 sales you need to get capital from investors to fund you until sales >1
Because capitalism was the first time money existed lol
What? Are you saying the video game industry predates capitalism? Lol
Minecraft
Terraria
Astrox Imperium (this is a single player version of EvE Online, so definitely not for everyone)
Dyson Sphere Program
Factorio
UFO:AI (admittedly this is a FOSS XCOM game that started as a clone of XCOM Apocalypse, and morphed into something bigger)
All developed by either a single person, or tiny teams with basically no start up capital. I’m sure I can find more, since the FOSS list of games is enormous.
Labor develops society. Capital enshittifies society.
Add Dead Cells, from Motion Twin, an Anarcho-Syndicalist worker co-op.
A few (good and one time buy) games off the top of my head (is that how you use the expression/idiom?):
Obviously commie games:
Might or might not be commie, but definitely progressive:
honourable mentions:
Missing Tetris!
That’s like saying only Disney can make movies. Cause they have capital.
not rly, you don’t have studio level funding if you don’t optimize (the content) for revenue. same with large/aaa level games
edit: according to George Lucas, filmmakers in the USSR had more artistic freedom than he had when making Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqvaMEFIdI
Anyone can make a movie, but you can’t make a big budget movie without a big budget.
Movies need smaller budgets to be good again. Same with games.
If you’re not trolling you’re stupid af
Stardew Valley
You can get that money back by making a good game and charge for it, no need for dark pattern and lootboxes.
Sure but does it need that money when it’s released or is it simply there because of publisher greed?
Wolfenstein?
Edit because I thought of a real one. Tetris.