• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    That seems like a bad idea? I don’t know what antagonizing the US would help with in the current conflict. I’d think they want US support/compassion for Palistine to be higher not lower, and attacking is a sure way to plumit it.

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      11 months ago

      That’s the thing. It literally does not matter how much the American people support Palestine because the American government is going to do whatever the American ruling class wants.

      There is no chance in hell Americans would vote to send aid to Israel if it was a referendum.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t think you’re wrong about the first part, but I disagree that Americans wouldn’t vote to support Israel. Many Americans support Israel for religious reasons, and many more see the nation as the only ally we have in the Middle East. It’s a dramatic oversimplification of the reality, but nobody ever lost an election underestimating the American voters.

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          11 months ago

          Will you see support? Yes, absolutely.

          I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell that at least 50% of Americans will support sending aid to Israel if given the chance to vote on it.

          The left won’t support it because they’re anti-war.

          The right won’t support it because their constituency is anti-Israel, anti-Semetic, and follows the talking point ‘help Americans first’ religiously.

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    11 months ago

    Welp, if my fear of public spaces wasn’t enough already, this just solidifies it 🙃

    Edit: it would be really fucking great if people just realized that citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government/military… this goes for everyone - US, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, EVERYONE

    Fuck the powers that be and their direct fucking over of everyone lying under their fist.

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      11 months ago

      In a representative democracy, the people being responsible for their government is kind of the point.

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        11 months ago

        Except representative democracy is a myth… Majority rule ≠ representation. Non-majority groups are unaccounted for. Plus, while the people may vote for representatives, they ultimately have no control over what said representatives decide to actually do. They can campaign for and promise all they want, but once they’re in office, they’re there.

        Citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government.

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          11 months ago

          I don’t think most people realize that members of congress can’t be recalled.

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          11 months ago

          You can’t simultaneously support democracy and say that the citizens aren’t responsible for their government.

          Either democracy is a failure or it isn’t.

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      11 months ago

      If your first thought from reading this is that “evil muslims will bomb me in acts of terrorism” then your brain has been irreparably poisoned by US state department funded Hollywood movies

      • BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 months ago

        Excuse me?

        I feel like being nervous in response to blatant threats to my nation - and by extent its populous, including myself - is fairly reasonable

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          11 months ago

          Are you American? No part of the article comes close to implying they want to target American civlians:

          “To the Americans I say, focusing your threats on Hezbollah and the region are pointless,” Nasrallah said. The US said it “would not only attack Lebanon but will attack Iran.”

          “Your fleets in the Mediterranean do not and will not cause us to fear. We have prepared for your fleet what it takes. You Americans remember your defeats from Lebanon (early 80s), Iraq, and Afghanistan… your humiliating retreat from Afghanistan. He praised the recent attacks by Iraqi Shia militias against US based in the region.

          “If an all out war erupts your fleet will be no good, your warplanes will be pointless, you will pay a heavy price.”

          They are clearly talking about defending against an American intervention. Hurting American civilians in Amrerica would be even more strategically stupid than cruel so I don’t know why you jumped to that conclusion. Maybe you are projecting the American tradition of imposing collective punishment on civilians as they do in cases of their interventions and economic sanction. Unless you want just to fantasise about Muslim hordes in which case you read it however you want.

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    11 months ago

    So… should the Americans blame their government for Muslim retaliation?

    Just like Gazans should blame Hamas for Israel’s retaliation?

    Nah. That’s not gonna happen, lol.