Your Windows 10 PC will soon be ‘junk’ - users told to resist Microsoft deadline::If you’re still using Windows 10 and don’t want to upgrade to Windows 11 any time soon you might want to sign a new online petition

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      1 year ago

      My PC doesn’t hit the requirements for windows 11. Yet it kept asking me to update. Been running Ubuntu ever since

    • bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world
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      Try it on an external drive. I did that a couple years ago just to fool around and see if I liked it, within a week it was my main OS and I’ve barely used Windows since.

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            Almost a year here! Working great! (No, for real, modern desktop Linux experience is surprisingly refined, it’s more stable and performant than Windows!)

            • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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              And I never did. I just started with Linux Mint when I got my first laptop.

              But I do see the perspective of Windows users, perhaps. I did briefly try using Windows, but it was frustrating. I don’t know how to set anything in there. For some reason there’s 2 setting apps (control panel and settings), each only being partially usable. My Wi-Fi kept dying, the only solution was replacing the Intel Wi-Fi card for one from Qualcomm. Bluetooth only worked randomly like every 20th restart. Drivers for my 20 year old printer didn’t work in either 10 nor 11. Only up to Windows 7.
              Painful experience.

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                Wow, a real Linux native here! Wonderful to know.

                Yes, I gotta say after running Linux for like a week I seriously couldn’t think of coming back to Windows. I just began to understand how much of a trash Windows systems are.

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                Yeah, when they went from 7 to 10 (there’s no 9 for horrible hacky reasons, and 8 was the mandatory half-baked test-run of the next proper version), they tried to redo the aesthetics of those systems to be more touch-input styled, but they only half-did it. If you want anything more advanced than the settings app gives you, you need to dig into the control panel. Then there’s the deeper settings - device manager, computer management, startup services, firewall, the registry, and on and on, all of which are designed entirely differently and many of which haven’t seen any update since windows 2000 at least. I wouldn’t be surprised if some went back further. It all speaks to ancient legacy code nobody wants to touch and the unfathomable depths of technical debt that implies. I get the sense the settings app change is another in a long line of updates that became legacy and added yet another layer to this byzantine system.

                Then there’s the lovecraftian user permissions system that seems like it layers three levels of abstraction that you have to utterly master to get literally anything done and which I have given up trying to understand. If I need permissions, I run a third party batch file that assigns complete ownership of everything in a folder to me, and then I don’t think about the consequences.

                I really want to move to Linux, but I’ve gotten burnt out on attempting and not being able to do all of the many things I’m used to on Windows. I’ve been hearing good things about it lately and I may just have the energy to try again soon.

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                  I wish you a good luck! And don’t hesitate to ask - often times it’s very simple, actually!

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                    Thanks, it’s been many years since my last attempt. I have a Linux server since about a year ago, I just need to switch my main computer.

                    Honestly shifting from reddit to lemmy has lifted such a mental burden that I feel like leaving Windows will be even better. It’s so oppressive dealing with the unending - and apparently increasing - current of enshittification.

                    After purging Edge from my system it came back after the latest update, and I got some notification that turned out to be an ad. When I went to turn it off I found they were all already off so idk if I even can disable that without first finding a tutorial that acknowledges the problem - rather than just telling me to turn it off - and following whatever arcane bullshit I need to fix it.

                    I remember once there was X setting, and it did nothing. Then I found a tutorial that explained how you could dig into the registry and flip the “RespectXSetting” setting. Actual gaslighting.

                    Sorry, I realise I am trauma dumping now. I just want off mr bones wild ride.

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        I’ve been using linux on my secondary machine for a couple of years now and I don’t really feel the need to use Windows anymore.
        all of my software just works and my workflow is cross-platform (I don’t really care about which os I’m using, i can get things done regardless); but as a software developer I’d much rather use linux than spend my time managing like 6 virtual linux/unix-like environments on windows. (wsl, msys2, etc)
        All of the games I care about actually work slightly better on linux than on windows. (and a single click away from installing and launching from steam); also Steam Big Picture mode and gamepad support (dualshock 4) is much better on linux than on Windows 10, on windows some features only work over Bluetooth. i use arch btw