SO shocking that Danyybruhjustleavemealone is redlinked 😄

Sounds like conservapedia, but that looks like this:

I tried the “search within pages”, but it just gave me the worst idea ever, followed by articles not about the US:

Whomever lives in blonde guy’s childhood home now are going to be hella annoyed in an hour…

Their ass? No wait, that’s where their arguments for peaceful protesters being scary are being fired from!

So your solution to right wing violence is to put more weapons in the hands of typically very right wing people notorious for being violent with impunity? 🤦

Then again, some might argue that sharing the designation with millions of other people makes it SLIGHTLY less prestigious…

Aww, did someone insult an idiot you idolize? Poor baby! 🥺

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Found the professional cyclist 😄

Nice to meet you, Johnny boy!

The “progressives” of the time were quite conservative, yes.

Scapegoating a chemical compound for problems caused by toxic gender roles and social ills wasn’t progressive and legislating based on such a colossal misunderstanding of cause and effect rooted in religion, moral panic, and othering is textbook conservatism.

People did not understand

That’s actually my point: they passed major legislation based on a guess not supported by knowledge. People knew THAT is a bad idea in the 1920s (and 1919 when the law was passed), though it seems to have been forgotten in the century since…

Also, many people, mostly men, did not think there was a domestic violence problem because they thought it was an okay thing to do

I’m fully aware of that. My point is that the people who didn’t agree that it was ok was wrong to pass law based on an unproven assumption as to the underlying reasons.

You are looking back on it with 2024 knowledge and values.

More like 1990s values at the latest. Demagoguery and scapegoat politics haven’t gotten the bad rap it deserves in the wider population for a LONG time…

women were getting the shit beaten out of them by their drunken husbands. So a huge number of people, especially women, thought prohibition would stop that

They thought wrong. Typical of conservatives to blame something external and simple for a societal problem rooted in toxic gender roles and family structures.

the cause was a lot more noble than people give it credit for.

Except for the fact that there’s nothing noble about jumping to conclusions and trying to solve the only tangentially related problems of some by depriving everyone else of something that most of them enjoyed more or less responsibly.

a reason people don’t understand now

On the contrary: we still understand that domestic violence is awful and we now also understand that alcohol doesn’t in itself cause it.

Popular amongst Protestant busybodies with more zeal than sense and outsized influence on politicians, sure, but not necessarily the population in general.

I’ll in turn remind you that it became so unpopular that they passed a new amendment to get rid of it, the only time that ever happened.

It’s not false equivalence

It very much is. You’re equivocating alcohol and child abuse.

it’s negation of your logic

Nope. Just because cops arrest child abusers doesn’t mean that they’re the only answer. In fact, a well-funded social safety net is much better at discovering and stopping it and most if not all other societal, psychological and psychiatric problems than cops will ever be.

but different.

Well, at least you got that part right 🤷

I might have put down, some people want to get drunk and beat you up, and the police is in the way of that too, now unless you are into that you provably don’t want to get beaten up by drunks

Another case of giving cops credit for something that they do by default even though their way of dealing with it is much WORSE than alternative ways less focused on use of force and punishment as a deterrent.

The crime doesn’t matter

It very much does, as treating every societal problem with the same blunt tool is an awful idea

get the point across that your reasoning as to why ACAB is flawed

Overly simplified for the sake of brevity, maybe, but otherwise nope, wrong again.

meaningless point farming

This might be difficult to understand to someone whose opinions are unpopular because they’re bad, but sometimes people express honest opinions that other people agree with, rather than playing pretend for points.

But trotting out a mountain sized false equivalence is? 🙄

The underlying point is the same. Bootleggers were providing what the people wanted and cops were in the way because ACAB. That’s the core of it.

Capitalism isn’t market forces existing at all.

Capitalism is directing and manipulating those forces towards accumulation and endless growth, following an ethos of “more is more and more is inherently good”

I suspect that there would be a shitload more anticapitalist people in the world if everyone was aware that markets and capitalism aren’t synonyms…