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Cake day: June 19th, 2023

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  • I mean, it’s a dick move, but doesn’t qualify as abuse imo. No harm would come from it by itself, and if the cat didn’t object at all, it’s not worth arguing about.

    But my grandparents had to shave their cat’s tail for a few years. He would suck on it, and in the process pull out hairs, which would end up with sores where they had been pulled. So the vet said to keep it shaved down, if the cat would tolerate it. The cat did, and no more issues.





  • Well, it was one, I just didn’t catch the typo of examples instead of example.

    But, you’re using an insult. Your example is already something nasty to say, no matter how you say it because you’re attacking someone. Using curse words is no more or less effective at pissing the person off enough to shoot you (as an extreme but possible outcome).

    For an example to work to support your opinion, it has to be undirected because directed statements are never neutral to begin with.

    A better example would be something like pointing out a painting you don’t like.

    You could say, “that looks like something a five year old vomited up after drinking finger paints”

    Or, “that thing is so fucking ugly it makes me want to vomit”.

    As long as the person you’re saying it to isn’t the artist, owner, or a dedicated fan of the artist, you have a relatively controlled example where the main difference is the presence of cursing.

    See the difference in the examples? If I call you a giant moron, it doesn’t matter much if I say fucking moron instead. It’s the insult that’s doing the work, not the adjective.

    Now, this applies at any level of creativity. “You’re about as pleasant as the south end of a north bound mule” is relatively creative, as is “you’re a bigger asshole than the north end of a south bound elephant” very similar insults, with the significant difference being the cursing.

    In that specific example, it could even be argued that the use of profanity increases the effect, and it would, depending on the target. Cursing is an amplifier in a huge swath of the population. “You’re a jerk” isn’t as effective as “you’re a fucking jerk”, because that extra step outside of social mores deepens the aggressiveness of the insult.

    It’s definitely subjective. There are people that would be more insulted by a well crafted, profanity free barb. But, on the whole, insults are about aggression and challenge. It’s a form of dominance display to an extent. So using insults as an example for the effects of cursing is flawed by nature.

    Now, a better example yet would be the weather. Someone saying “I’m tired of this fucking rain” is more boring than someone saying “I really wish thor would give us a warning before bukkakeing the world”. Is bukkakeing an actual word? Doesn’t matter, but it struck my mind lol. You can replace the jizz reference with “spitting on”, if you feel sexual matters serve the same role as cursing.

    Once you remove the insult factor, it becomes more about the cursing itself, which makes a better example and point of discussion.









  • I’m taking a turn here, off the original topic a little, but not a true subject change or tangent.

    There’s a ton of history behind all the terminology around terms like this. And they’re all inherently racist. They aren’t, however slurs (currently, one could debate the past) in the few places they are used. They’re too archaic to be slurs in English, they just aren’t used.

    Griffe, in specific was more of a French colonies thing, with other terms being used elsewhere.

    Now, the point of all this is to get back to why the term is racist in the first place.

    All the terms, mulatto, quateron (or quadroon), octoroon, metis, mamelouk, whatever; they are all about how much black is in the person, how much African heritage they have. Kinda obvious, but it’s never about how much white they have. The French colonies has specific terminology for someone that’s 1/64 black. Think about that. Out of all their ancestors, one is black, and that makes them black, with some white blood, separate from people that looked exactly the same.

    That whole “one drop” mentality is why they’re all racist, horrible terminology, even though they aren’t used as insults in English. They weren’t really used as insults back in the slave era either, just as yet another way to keep the boot on necks. The terms were used among free people of color too, which shows just how effective that boot of language really was.

    Now, the terminology varied a lot because it came from multiple languages. Spanish, French, Portuguese and English. Where you were determined what terms were in use, originally, but as colonies shifted hands, slavers intermingled,and borders moved, things got mixed around some. Here in the American southeast, you see even more mingling of the terms, with the dominant ones shifting over time in various locations.

    But, and this is actually relevant, the U.S. isn’t the only place this kind of thinking existed, and some of the terms are slurs in other places and languages.

    Griffe isn’t a slur anywhere I’m aware of, but “sambo” is, and it was another word for the same 3/4 African ancestry. Afaik, it isn’t a common slur, big there are places in South and Central America where it’s used as one.

    However, there are also places in South and Central America where mulatto, or mulatta are used with pride.

    Now, why am I writing this? It’s not just a historical curiosity, some vestigial words lingering in dictionaries. There was an entire set of jargon used as a tool of dominance and oppression. The thinking behind it still lingers everywhere that European imperialism existed (so, essentially everywhere across the world). Australia even had the same or similar terms for people with aboriginal ancestry.

    The stain of slavery, specifically the African slave trade, is embedded across the world. We forget sometimes, because the terminology of oppression changed, that we still think that way. It takes effort for some of us to first realize that we default to thinking of anyone with mixed African heritage as black first, as the black being mixed into the other “race”. And eliminating that way of thinking is even more work.

    But it’s work we need to do. As individuals, as nations, as a species, we need to understand that the systemic racism isn’t just about laws and official biases. It’s about the lingering, pernicious taint in how people think about race as a whole.


  • Yup, same here.

    What’s bad is that some of my family still like to get all pissy when I tell them to gtfo when they come to me for an answer after they’ve wasted my time by arguing over things they had come to me for in the past.

    Don’t ask me your random crap, wait for me to give a good answer, then argue with me. Even if I was wrong, why the hell did you come up me in the first place if you didn’t think I knew what you were asking about?

    Like you, if I don’t know, I say I don’t know. And I’ll be clear about any gaps or uncertainty. More rigorously than I do online because idgaf about random online opinions, and I still usually follow those rules online.

    For a couple of years, I would tell my sister that I’m not her private google after she made a habit of wasting my time asking things and then arguing things that she didn’t know in the first place, and arguing wrong things. Just got tired of being taken for granted.

    Mind you, if she’d heard the answer and just asked more questions, discussing the matter, it would be fine. But saying things as utterly infuriating as “but it said on facebook”, and “I don’t believe you” pushed me to my patience limit lol. Like, what? If you didn’t think I was reliable after the hundreds of things I was right about before, why did you even ask?




  • Yeah, I gotta echo the question of just how bloody tall you are. That’s a reasonable distance from the front of that toilet to the wall for anyone in the 6 foot tall area.

    But, even then, what is it that makes you lean so far forward while standing that you’d hit your head on a wall even half that distance? There are things that would make it a problem to have a wall too close, I’m just amazed that anyone under about 8 foot tall would run into trouble even if it was closer, and they had some kind if spinal fusion or disability involved. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, I’m really curious what it could be, if that’s why this is a problem.