I’m not a feminist (in the context of this discussion) and even I would say men are far more inclined biologically and culturally to engage in rapey behaviour. To the extent that rapey behaviour goes against our other human values (that men also hold and fight to protect) then that IS something you could say is “bad” about maleness. Same as aggression. It’s self evident the males of species are more inclined to physical violence. But such inclinations are overcome by good parenting and good society. But they very much exist. Look at pretty much every other mammal species to see how biology operates.
Except that it ISNT self-evident. There are plenty of mammals with no apparent bias as to which sex is more prone to violence, more if you exclude the minority of mammals where only one sex has a natural weapon.
You might have a slightly better case if we were just talking primates. But not by a lot.
Is there a particilar part of a lecture about chimpanzee mating habits that you think especially buttress sexism? If not, just referring to a whole video as a reference is just a gish galllp through citation.
No need to straw man, we were having a sensible discussion.
The abstract is all I was referring to.
Our closest primate relatives exhibit the same behaviours that primitive patriarchal human societies exhibited. I offer that as evidence that part of this terrible behaviour is biologically based.
Evidence is required if one wants to assert it is all cultural.
I’m not a feminist (in the context of this discussion) and even I would say men are far more inclined biologically and culturally to engage in rapey behaviour. To the extent that rapey behaviour goes against our other human values (that men also hold and fight to protect) then that IS something you could say is “bad” about maleness. Same as aggression. It’s self evident the males of species are more inclined to physical violence. But such inclinations are overcome by good parenting and good society. But they very much exist. Look at pretty much every other mammal species to see how biology operates.
Except that it ISNT self-evident. There are plenty of mammals with no apparent bias as to which sex is more prone to violence, more if you exclude the minority of mammals where only one sex has a natural weapon.
You might have a slightly better case if we were just talking primates. But not by a lot.
In context, obviously primates are more relevant to what I’m saying. Esp chimpanzees.
Yale if you are interested…
https://oyc.yale.edu/molecular-cellular-and-developmental-biology/mcdb-150/lecture-2
Is there a particilar part of a lecture about chimpanzee mating habits that you think especially buttress sexism? If not, just referring to a whole video as a reference is just a gish galllp through citation.
No need to straw man, we were having a sensible discussion.
The abstract is all I was referring to.
Our closest primate relatives exhibit the same behaviours that primitive patriarchal human societies exhibited. I offer that as evidence that part of this terrible behaviour is biologically based.
Evidence is required if one wants to assert it is all cultural.